n800@conference.jabber.ru - Monday, January 25, 2010

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[20:12:54] <kroll> при этом до ребута интернеты работают через БТ по EDGE протоколу [20:13:18] <kroll> Виндовые шары не появляются в файлменеджере [20:13:28] <kroll> а ребутить таблетку лениво [20:13:38] <kroll> как починить эту оказию? 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Да [21:46:35] <lexa_> а вообще попробуй отклбчить энэргосбережение на таблетке [21:46:36] <duderov> Зато проблема решена [21:46:42] <kroll> супер [21:46:47] <kroll> lexa_: пасиб [21:47:04] <lexa_> kroll: за что? [21:47:09] <lexa_> за совет отрезать ногу? [21:47:11] <lexa_> :D [21:47:55] duderov is now online [21:47:58] <kroll> нет, за энергосбережение [21:48:01] fabiaN is now online [21:48:03] <kroll> которое, кстати, не помогло [21:48:57] <lexa_> жаль [21:49:07] kroll is now online [21:52:56] duderov is now online [21:53:20] <kroll> эм... [21:53:28] <kroll> странно. [21:53:40] <lexa_> помоему лучше просто написсать что такой чудопатч есть [21:53:41] <lexa_> что ? [21:53:42] <kroll> встроенный жаббер и гмэйл не логинятся [21:53:49] <kroll> теар не грузит страницы [21:53:56] <kroll> но СКАЙП РАБОТАЕТ [21:54:07] <lexa_> ой, не туда [21:54:08] kroll is now online [21:54:08] <kroll> МикроБ не пашет [21:54:21] <lexa_> kroll: проблема с mtu? [21:54:28] <kroll> кто это? [21:54:53] <lexa_> Maximum Transmission Unit [21:55:06] <kroll> Я не знаю, есть ли у меня с ним проблемы [21:55:09] <lexa_> ifconfig wlan0 что говорит на таблетке? [21:55:30] <kroll> омг переписывать сюда придётся руками( [21:55:32] <kroll> сек) [21:55:36] <lexa_> ну не всё [21:56:11] <kroll> Так [21:56:22] <lexa_> UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 [21:56:27] <kroll> sudo ifconfig wlan0 говорит мне [21:56:30] <lexa_> вот такая строка там долюна быть [21:56:37] <kroll> нет [21:56:41] <kroll> есть просто [21:57:00] <kroll> BROADCAST MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 [21:57:21] <kroll> сек [21:57:25] <lexa_> угу [21:57:29] <kroll> щас подконекчусь и повторю [21:57:49] <kroll> кстати, что за процесс Xomap [21:57:51] <kroll> ? [21:57:56] duderov is now online [21:58:03] <lexa_> мнекажеться это ихний Xсервер [21:58:07] <lexa_> хотя могу врать [21:58:08] duderov is now online [21:58:10] <kroll> вот сейчас говорит то что ты написал [21:58:25] <kroll> а чуть ниже в TX packets 184 эроррсов [21:58:32] <kroll> эррорсов [21:58:37] <lexa_> а MTU какое* [21:58:38] <lexa_> ? [21:58:42] <kroll> 1500 [21:58:53] fabiaN leaves the room [21:58:56] <lexa_> а к нету ты подключён через vpn ? [21:59:04] <kroll> нет [21:59:07] kroll is now online [21:59:08] <kroll> pppoe [21:59:15] <lexa_> дело ясное :D [21:59:25] <kroll> меня блочат? [21:59:35] <lexa_> ifconfig eth0 mtu 1300 попробуй [22:00:03] <lexa_> если инет заработает, то гуглить mtu patch discovery [22:00:32] <kroll> ifconfig: SIOCSIFMTU: No such device [22:00:42] <lexa_> пардон, не eth0 а wlan0 [22:00:45] <kroll> ок [22:01:58] <kroll> переподключаться? Ругаться не стало. Но Тиар не грузит... [22:02:33] <lexa_> ненадо [22:02:50] <lexa_> какая досада [22:02:57] duderov is now online [22:03:00] <kroll> :( [22:03:06] <kroll> вернуть MTU взад? [22:03:31] <lexa_> те ifconfig сейчас говорит что mtu 1300 и всёравно браузер странички не открывает? [22:03:50] <kroll> так [22:04:07] kroll is now online [22:04:27] <lexa_> :( [22:04:34] <lexa_> тогда я незнать что за бида [22:04:52] <lexa_> симптомы характерные, а решение не помогает [22:05:02] <kroll> ок. я её ребутну. [22:05:09] <kroll> так MTU вернуть на 1500? [22:05:19] <kroll> и вообще, в двух словах, на что это влияет? [22:05:24] <kroll> и как связано с pppoe [22:05:26] <kroll> ? [22:06:10] <lexa_> mtu - макс длина пакета который может быть отправлен [22:06:26] <lexa_> если пакет длинее mtu то его надо разрезать [22:06:54] <lexa_> внутри pppoe mtu меньше(за счёт заголовков) [22:07:19] <lexa_> и пакеты в 1500 “непролезают” в pppoe с меньшим mtu [22:07:20] hleem is now away (Автостатус 'Отошел' из-за бездействия пользователя.) [22:07:46] <kroll> :-oпасиба [22:07:47] <lexa_> вообше “непролезают” - это так для простоты обьяснения, чтоб не рассказывать о фрагментации пакетов и пр [22:07:59] duderov is now online [22:08:21] <lexa_> те если очень захотят то пролезут, но роутеры которые стоят дальше могут невзлюбить такие пакеты и покоцать их [22:09:08] kroll is now online [22:10:06] hleem is now online [22:12:59] duderov is now online [22:14:08] kroll is now online [22:14:12] Kroll joins the room as participant and none [22:14:12] Kroll is now xa (I'm not here right now) [22:14:13] Kroll is now xa (I'm not here right now) [22:14:44] Kroll leaves the room [22:15:18] Kroll joins the room as participant and none [22:15:18] Kroll is now xa (I'm not here right now) [22:15:19] Kroll is now xa (I'm not here right now) [22:15:42] Kroll leaves the room [22:15:53] <kroll> хм. у меня пижин таблеточный вылетает когда захожу в комнату эту) [22:16:01] <kroll> но после ребута интернеты работают [22:17:21] <duderov> А клиент таблеточный [22:17:46] <duderov> вылетает? [22:17:55] <kroll> именно это я написал [22:17:59] duderov is now online [22:18:57] <duderov> Встроенный? [22:19:09] kroll is now online [22:19:45] r.d.olivo joins the room as participant and none [22:19:45] r.d.olivo is now online [22:19:45] r.d.olivo is now online [22:20:25] <r.d.olivo> А пижин бывает встроенным в таблетку? [22:21:32] fabiaN joins the room as participant and none [22:21:32] fabiaN is now online [22:21:34] r.d.olivo is now online [22:22:12] r.d.olivo leaves the room [22:22:22] r.d.olivo joins the room as participant and none [22:22:22] r.d.olivo is now online [22:22:23] r.d.olivo is now online [22:22:24] <duderov> Да я сижу в чате со встроенного меседжера, [22:22:44] <duderov> Но это не пидгин [22:22:52] <r.d.olivo> Вот именно [22:23:00] duderov is now online [22:23:17] <r.d.olivo> Вы не находите ваше сообщение лишённым смысла? [22:23:29] kroll is now away (Прямо сейчас меня здесь нет) [22:23:30] kroll is now away (Прямо сейчас меня здесь нет) [22:23:51] duderov is now online [22:23:52] duderov is now online [22:24:09] kroll is now away (Прямо сейчас меня здесь нет) [22:25:39] <r.d.olivo> Поясню специально для Вас. В таблетке встроенным клиентом является Telepathy. Pidgin, как раз таки, является альтернативным IM-клиентом. По логике пиджин не может быть встроенным клиентом. [22:26:23] fabiaN is now away ( (Автостатус 'Отошел' по причине бездействия более 5 мин)) [22:26:48] r.d.olivo is now online [22:27:34] <r.d.olivo> А нижеследующее сообщение свидетельствует только о том, что вы или не читаете мои сообщения (или Вам плохо видно, вследствие чего Вы меня несколько раз переспросили), или Вы не думаете прежде чем писать. [22:27:52] hleem is now away (Автостатус 'Отошел' из-за бездействия пользователя.) [22:27:52] <r.d.olivo> Кстати, встроенный клиент работает отлично [22:28:00] duderov is now online [22:28:17] <duderov> Спасибо, я думал встроенный основан на пиджине [22:28:23] <r.d.olivo> Нет [22:28:31] <r.d.olivo> Ни в коем случае :) [22:28:59] <r.d.olivo> Достаточно просто посмотреть как клиент себя идинтифицирует [22:29:05] kroll is now online [22:29:06] kroll is now online [22:29:09] kroll is now online [22:30:28] kroll_ joins the room as participant and none [22:30:28] kroll_ is now online [22:31:49] r.d.olivo is now online [22:33:00] duderov is now online [22:33:19] r.d.olivo leaves the room [22:33:39] <kroll_> Vlf [22:33:41] <kroll_> Теперь меня тут целых три [22:33:54] kroll_ leaves the room [22:34:09] kroll is now online [22:36:23] fabiaN is now xa ( (Автостатус 'Недоступен' по причине бездействия более 15 мин)) [22:37:52] hleem is now xa (Автостатус 'Недоступен' из-за бездействия пользователя.) 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